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On 11/20/2020 at 11:28 PM, kohpapa said:

Announcement - uncle also will exit from this forum, because in SA's Code of Conduct for Officials, uncle shall not engage in any social media or offer comments or personal suggestions for any conflict of interest for the SA's Affiliates (SA Members, ActiveSG, SportSG, NROC [by virtue of uncle's role once in SG-Coach fraternity] and World Athletics).

It has been interesting twists and turns of events, and uncle says...It is great also to return to sgRunners almost spending a full year 2020 with all (all events cancelled because of Covid-19)....celebrated uncle's 10th year Anniversary at sgRunners.

Good Bye and best wishes to All.

 

 

4 minutes ago, AutumnRunner said:

Oh... that will be a loss to the forum runners here...

Uncle not allowed even to share personal opinions on non SA affiliated local races? 

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if for long-term say next 5 years...

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SOH already run ambassador for Pocari

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..so UA...why not...otherwise...any others A-N...

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uncle said 2020 is great for the "goat"... 

may not be in 2021 because...Soh being Metal Goat...

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better settle down with home, family

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and connect to Community (Runners) - SA...

to avoid any more dangerous endeavours...or court cases...lol!

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11 hours ago, AutumnRunner said:

i just saw him running his LSDs over the weekend in the rain... hahahh....

Did you happen to see that which brand shoes he was wearing? Hopefully not barefoot... 😅

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Athletics: Marathoner Soh Rui Yong loses two of three appeals, must pay Ashley Liew $10,000 for costs

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SINGAPORE - The Republic's top marathoner Soh Rui Yong has been ordered to pay costs amounting to $10,000 to former national teammate Ashley Liew after two of his appeals relating to an ongoing defamation suit filed by the latter were dismissed by the High Court. A third appeal, however, was allowed.

One of the two dismissed appeals was against the January dismissal of an application Soh had made for District Judge Lee Li Choon to recuse herself from the case because of alleged bias.

In her written judgment on Friday (April 30), Justice Valerie Thean noted that "this was the most substantive" of the three appeals in respect of costs.

The other dismissed appeal was against Judge Lee's dismissal of Soh's application in September 2020 for the late adduction of additional expert evidence.

The appeal by Soh that was allowed by Justice Thean relates to Judge Lee allowing Liew to amend his statement of claim, which is no longer allowed.

Full Story: Link Here

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looks like...

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SOH is building an impressive image as an "UA Ambassador" in Asia...

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Soh Vs Ashley Liew...last 3 days of the trial on June 6, 7 and 8

the outcome win or loss it is just a matter of settlement of personal feud in $$$$$$...on who is actually the true better Marathoner and who is really "speaking the truth"...let the decision on the outcome be a fruitful ending after June 6, 7 and 8 trial.

Importantly, SOH has secured an UA Ambassador of the World, it is SEA Games showtime, Commonwealth Games to look forward...that is his career goal...plus a possibility of marriage with a very steady gf...looking forward...setting a family...

Ashley Liew, a once (retired) Marathoner, already have a steady career with family, and after this legal saga, will be remembered as the controversy of "slowing down during a race to let runners catch up that led to him winning the Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy".

Learning point - always slow down during a race to let slower runners catch up, who knows, uncle also can win the Fair Play medal.... mah chong, let others chong faster..likedat then can show....how better to be a shiok shiok runner...not as a slow slow runner...otherwise, uncle will sue you for defamation...$,$$$,$$$😄 

 

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8 hours ago, kohpapa said:

the outcome win or loss it is just a matter of settlement of personal feud in $$$$$$...on who is actually the true better Marathoner and who is really "speaking the truth"...let the decision on the outcome be a fruitful ending after June 6, 7 and 8 trial.

Ashley Liew, a once (retired) Marathoner, already have a steady career with family, and after this legal saga, will be remembered as the controversy of "slowing down during a race to let runners catch up that led to him winning the Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy".

 

Unfortunately, it is probably not as simple as Uncle has put it.

Sure, money and more importantly, reputation is at stake. And also perhaps the credibility of a National Sports Association who supported Ashley in the first place. 

One thing is beyond dispute though - Soh is definitely the better marathoner. :crazysmile:

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credibility of a National Sports Association who supported Ashley in the first place

National Sports Association (SA) and Singapore National Olympic Council (SNOC) are different entities...

SNOC rewarded Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy to Ashley Liew. National Sports Association (SA) seeks "an amicable solution"

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uncle does not see any evidence of a National Sports Association (SA) who supported Ashley in the first place, unless you are referring the SNOC?

 

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Sure, money and more importantly, reputation is at stake.

What is not known in this High Court case, is why Expert Evidence (like calling an Expert Witness) is not allowed and was rejected. Money and more importantly spent for High Court case is very very expensive for the purpose to know the truth. Perhaps, SOH's Legal Team must have been "surprised" by Judge Lee's decision on the Rejection and Appeal to have an Expert Witness.

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Many of us simply want to know the truth about what Ashley did after the missed u-turn.

Soh Vs Ashley Liew...last 3 days of the trial on June 6, 7 and 8

eat 🍿 lah!

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Yeah. Confused between SA and SNOC and which body it was that nominate Ashley in the first place. 

If it was SNOC, then its even worse. 

And the result of the case will be closely watched by the local sports fraternity. And like I said, the implication could be more far-reaching that some of us might realise (or even care)

If I understand Soh's recent post correctly, the need for an expert witness was because of Ashley's testimony on the stand during cross-examination.

From a layman's POV and reading through the press reports and some of the courts documents posted publicly, there can only be one conclusion. 

But of cos, I am no law expert and there may be other considerations beyond the understanding of a layman like myself. 

Soh's life (up to this point) is actually quite fascinating. An talented film maker will definitely be able to make a compelling documentary about his life. A 'more creative' one will be able to put a conspiratorial spin on it. :crazysmile:

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Actually, given the chance if the "truth of the matter" is discovered on SOH's legal side - WIN with Expertise Witness, and the Judge decided for IT (WIN), then someone in the "National Sports Authority" will have to look very....you can fill-in the dots.

Again, speculations on what went on within the close door sessions of Court Chambers, it looks like SOH needs to tread carefully on his recent successful life track to *A Successful Career, *An International Brand Ambassador, *A GF (ready) for Marriage and Family, and *A Personal Political Preference/Alliance.

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Run Faster Smarter. Practice Mindfulness and Know the Goal that You're Working Towards. But not Run Against The Rest of the World, Be Slow and Be Smart. Sometimes to Lose Some is to Win All*

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the outcome win or loss it is just a matter of settlement of personal feud in $$$$$$...on who is actually the true better Marathoner and who is really "speaking the truth"...let the decision on the outcome be a fruitful ending after June 6, 7 and 8 trial.

 

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According to uncle-aka-"future-trend reader and fortune-reading teller"...

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Career and Wealth are stable, especially love in general, except special attention to be paid to health issues...

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Love, Career and Wealth

WealthWin big means 

1) Millions in Loss Income compensation for having to forfeit having to go previous SEA Games even if SOH has qualified. That is, if there is a Win against Ashley Liew's High Court Case.

2) Remember in previous post..credibility of a National Sports Association who supported Ashley... corrected... National Sports Authority who supported Ashley in the first place, which had "thoroughly investigated". A Win would mean the National Sports Authority will have to issue a Press Release: "S**** to you,  SOH."

3) A Win would also mean if Ashley Liew appeals against Expert Witness (The Truth) and Expert Witness (Compensation for SOH's Loss of Income) and what if Ashley Liew LOSE in both Appeals. More Money to be Paid Out to Soh. Huat lah!

Just mere speculations on the future outcome...eat 🍿....zzzz and dream on 🍿...because the TRUTH always HURTS.

 

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1 hour ago, AutumnRunner said:

I think no one really will know the truth... definitely not us who are not in the race.

That is why, Expert Witness is called upon...

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Apparently, there was some procedures which SOH's current Legal Team was not able to get the Judge Lee to Agree. Judge Lee's Disapprove on the Expert Witness was a blow to SOH's Court Case.

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The truth must be transparent and objective, and not biased. 

Hence, a SWAP IN LEGAL COUNSEL... 

Also note Among many other things...

1) Judge Lee had allowed Ashley Liew's legal team to introduce 157 pages of particulars to his Statement of Claim. We made an appeal to the High Court against this unusual occurrence, and the High Court duly overturned this decision by Judge Lee. A win for us , with costs payable from Ashley to me. I am very happy with this result.

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Athletics: Marathoner Soh Rui Yong loses two of three appeals, must pay Ashley Liew $10,000 for costs

A third appeal, however, was allowed.

Of course, no one knows how much was the costs payable from Ashley to SOH because it was not reported by The Straits Times.

Liew, 33, is accusing Soh of defaming him in five instances via comments made on social media and is seeking damages, to be assessed, of up to a maximum of $250,000. The trial is expected to resume in June.

Eat 🍿!

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The stake will be higher for Ashley Liew, because SOH has acted as both defendant and plantiff...

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A Win (for SOH) would also mean if Ashley Liew appeals against Expert Witness (The Truth) and Expert Witness (Compensation for SOH's Loss of Income) and what if Ashley Liew LOSE in both Appeals. More Money to be Paid Out to Soh. Huat lah!

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Liew, 33, is accusing Soh of defaming him in five instances via comments made on social media and is seeking damages, to be assessed, of up to a maximum of $250,000.

$Millions vs $250,000

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Millions in Loss Income compensation for having to forfeit having to go previous SEA Games even if SOH has qualified. That is, if there is a Win against Ashley Liew's High Court Case.

Ashley Liew has also a stake on the National Sports Authority's decision and integrity for nominating and rewarding him the Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy...a Loss would mean a stunning humilation for Singapore Sports Authority...

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TRUTH always HURTS

SOH is challenging Ashley Liew, "slowing down during a race to let runners catch up that led to him winning the Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy" is not TRUE!

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