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28 minutes ago, starfinder said:

I think only Ashley himself really know if he did really purposely slow down or not. 

While I admire SRY on his achievement and humility even as a champion, there could be chance he may have observed wrongly especially from a distance.

Then this whole issue becomes just a misunderstanding.

It probably started as a misunderstanding or misinterpretation  of the fact, but it has since escalated and the stakes have risen considerably. 

My impression from reading the reports is the part of SRY's contention with Ashley's account was that it was put to him during media interview that he slowed to a crawl and that cost him a medal. Ashley did not clarify that during the media interview which perpetuates his act of sportsmanship. 

That got him nominated for the Fairplay award which he won. 

I don't think that SRY begrudged Ashley for the award. He just disagree that Ashley slowed down to a crawl and that cost him a medal. In his estimation, even if Ashley has really slowed down, it did not cost him a medal because his finishing time was a bit off from the medal timing. 

SA probably slighted because they were the one who nominated Ashley for the award and raised the stake with its 'problem kid' to cease and desist. Of cos, SRY was never going to just roll over. And his further comments prompted Ashley to sue him for defamation.

And here we are. 

It all seems a little superfluous to me but of cos I'm not the one who feels he's been defamed. :pardon:

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facts (published)...

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just eat 🍿....

SNOC is has a stake in the pending of the Court's decision...legal matters from SNOC against SOH were already in placed..."pending on the outcome of the ongoing Trial"...

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if the Truth is 2min or 700m (Liew) vs 7min or more than 2 mins (Soh) is confirmed...then somebody is going to be answerable to why SOH was not selected to SEA GAMES 2019...to ensure that Mr Soh's allegations were "fully investigated and the truth be determined."..

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everyone wants the "truth" to be determined...SNOC also wants the "truth" about its own investigations are not wrong but is the truth...

as for SA's...it is totally different tiff.. more on what SA Executive Director Syed Abdul Maik Aljunied alleged defamation on SOH...so far SOH has won over SA (on some administrative documentation submission on his character that "has bad records" but so far delay until failure to produce evidence)...then SA Legal Team quitted and Director Aljunied had to use his own legal Team...more to admit what he said or claims were wrong

meanwhile, SA President and Management Team had stepped down...tomorrow (Sept 25) shall be SA new Election (2020)...Soh's choice of SA Management Committee...will there be a nomination of SOH for SEA GAMES 2021..."nothing more than a GOLD result"...

Winning against SA has a bearing on the outcome of somebody who quoted, "there have been numerous instances where Soh has displayed conduct that falls shorts of the standards of attitude and behaviour that the SNOC expects and holds its athhletes to"...what if there were no such records from SA on the standards of attitude and behaviour of SOH to start with...no evidence of SOH's breaching the rules, standards or attitudes...so if no, then why there is every REASON WHY SOH IS AND SHOULD NOT BE SELECTED FOR SEA GAMES 2019..

just eat 🍿....lah...it is going to be a lengthy one....maybe this Trial may extend till beyond SEA Games 2021....and guess who will be very upset/happy once again...SOH, SA, Liew, SNOC or Aljunied?

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latest: did not see Liew Slowing Down...soh's witness (defence)

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summary of Sept 24...Liew's Arguments...

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if Liew really slowed to a crawl, Soh would have caught up with him in about 10 seconds..

let's say, Soh's normal competitive race pace is at 3 min 25 sec for every KM...for first 30km...

205 sec for every KM or 1, 000m...then 10 sec of soh's pace is about 50m...abutthen...

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eat 🍿...

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verdict...you decide before the Final Judgement from the District Judge...don't know when..Court is adjourned...

but, let you be the sgRunner's "Judge"...

liew wins because got witness say...

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and SOH is very jealous of Liew...World's Sportsman award leh...the Authority nominated, and even PM praised...how can that be a "wrong" decision...some more the Authority had investigated..all Liew did is the "truth"...

and SOH's defence has not proved..Slowing Down is "slow to a crawl"....

and SOH's defence flip-prata...first say 2 mins then later amended and then say 7 min...Last Chance...don't anyhow say...after U-turn...within 100-300m...a witness said got overtake Liew...

and SOH's May the truth prevail...attention seeking to win social media followers to "support"...dream on...

eat 🍿.....let's celebrate...

Liew 🍿  SOH 👎

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side-tracked...SAA's Elections 2020...and the winner is...

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SAA's priority should always be our athletes..

a little background on the new SAA President...Lien Choong Luen...reported in 2016...

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extract from mothership news (sept 24)...

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can SOH make it to SEA GAMES 2021?

while eating 🍿...

alamek.. Lien and SOH were from the "Raffles" alumni...Aljunied Malik (SA aka status unknown) also...Mr. Tan Chuan-Jin (SNOC) also...

please end lah... SOH vs Aljunied Malik (SA)... SNOC got issues with SOH because SOH anger Mr. Tan Chuan-Jin (SNOC)...just say and criticise less "publicly" to avoid SAGAs and having end up going to Court... really...

Note: uncle has no "for" or "against" - "Raffles" alumni...simply uncle is not...and don't want to be "sued" until uncle portable running pants go "bankrupt"...

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let's eat 🍿...interesting development for the run community....not with power politics that once "rules"...who should be the BEST selected for the Fastest...

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guess who will be very excited about the new SAA Management Committee?

"Hello". "Yes?". "Interested to go Vietnam for Marathon Race?"...

another one...

just got a call..."Hello". "Yes?". "Uncle, you want to return to officiate Track and Field local and international events?"...uncle's buddy bro is elected as one of the new 2020 SAA Committee Members..👍


 

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A good result for the community...SOH 

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ok, loh, uncle shall be ready to return to serve future SA's interest in supporting the athletes development and performances....only if invited...

Covid-19 has actually "suspended" all activities of SA Calendar for 2020...except the date available...

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Participation is by invitation only, and to ensure compliance with Circuit Breaker Phase 2 directives...

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yes, the result is indeed good for the community...👍

Move on to 2021... Congratulations to the New SA 2020🍿!

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hello, Soh... you have not last heard from us yet...

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looks like SOH is gonna to be kena face disciplinery issues....SNOC is gonna to be 🤣... likedat how to select you....trip to SEA Games 2021 (on hold!)...

eat 🍿...watch SAGA!

 

 

 

 

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However you want to look at it, the timing of the disciplinary proceedings initiated against an athlete by an out-going MC embroiled in a legal dispute with the said athlete does not makes for good optics. 

The inherent conflict of interest is the big elephant in the room. The independence of the DSC must be beyond repute.

Surely, the sensible thing to do would be to hand the outstanding issue to the new MC. 

I think it is to the new incoming SA President's credit that he said that the issue will be independently reviewed.  

 

 

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Mr Soh, just in case you must know, I am still seconded to SAA...for 3 years...

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looks like trip to SEA Games 2021 (hit a WALL!)...better say and criticize Less publicly 🤫...otherwise kena...

eat 🍿, watch SAGA!  
 

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Congrats Uncle.... helping the future of Athletics in Sg is really something capable people should....

On 9/27/2020 at 8:05 AM, kohpapa said:

ok, loh, uncle shall be ready to return to serve future SA's interest in supporting the athletes development and performances....only if invited...

Covid-19 has actually "suspended" all activities of SA Calendar for 2020...except the date available...

 

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On 9/29/2020 at 1:15 PM, AutumnRunner said:

Congrats Uncle.... helping the future of Athletics in Sg is really something capable people should....

 

Just recieved great news from Singapore Athletics..

uncle has been reinstated as Technical Official with the New SA Committee...

just to update on the Selection Criteria for Marathon for SEA GAMES 2021..

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well it is great to be an Official back at SAA 2020.

What if there is a possibility of an elite-only Run at SCSM 2020? ...of course, uncle shall be "proxy" to know, because this is a World Athletics sanctioned race..

nothing heard from Soh so far on this right?

decision from the Court, pending and not conclusive..because Soh is both as Defendant as well as Plantiff in this case...complicated...may be "longer" than expected...

importantly, let uncle "probes" more on Soh's eligibility for SEA GAMES Marathon 2021 when uncle returns to SAA...

yo, SAA long time no see...almost 5 years since last SEA Games in 2015 (Singapore)...agreed...very turbulent years after that...

was uncle present as Official at the U-turn incident during the SEA GAMES 2015 (Marathon)... nope, uncle was then Official assigned for Field Event - High Jump..all matters then was handled by Track Event Team Officials..

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17 minutes ago, trailblazer said:

@kohpapa Congrats to you being reinstated as a Technical Official with the New SA Committee! Let's hope the new SA Committee will revive our athletics community. 

Thanks, @trailblazer, need to develop and build up the core of Athletes who had been neglected by "power-politics" in SAA...

To start, Competitions must be built to instill the Stardards and Requirements as set up by the World Athletics as being Fair Only for the Best Athlete is Represented.

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9 hours ago, SG RED DEVIL said:

Comgrats to you @kohpapa on your appointment.

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Mr Joe Yap, VP (Competitions Organising) is uncle's bro and fellow cohort when we were certified as World Athletics Technical Official prior to the SEA GAMES 2015...so uncle got connection, that's all...

Previous VP was Mr Ang Peng Siong, also uncle's bro, but Platoon Section Commander reporting to Uncle...before he was disrupted due to Swim for Commonwealth Games and Olympics...a friendly guy, Mr Ang Peng Siong actually...connected to uncle also...school alumnus..that's all...

Selection for SEA GAMES 2019 and the results...

the VP (Training & Selection) responsibility...

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as you can see...the best of 2019 SG Participants are bottoms...

Soon...there will be a new Selection Criteria...

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Again, only the Top 3 placings of 2019 SEA GAMES are worthy to be selected for 2021...

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do you think Soh Rui Yong will be selected for 2021 SEA GAMES?

pending on the decision of the Court Rulings...

The Truth of the Matter...

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what is Sportsmanship? Ethics and Honesty...

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uncle has no connection or relation with Soh Rui Yong, of course, no Alumnus status whatsoever, maybe only in Sports Community, also no bearing of Soh's career...

uncle just wish that all the power-politics in SA must end, get back to the Competitions and Selection, Training and Represent the country's best interest - Just Do Your Best!

only the Best should Represent the country based on results...subjective matters on character, behaviour, attitude...show uncle a SAINT or BEST PERSON in the World..or are you a SAINT or the BEST PERSON in the World to Judge someone's character, behaviour, attitude?

social media is a norm, chats-FB-instg so let it be independent, otherwise, suing each other pants off until bankrupt because of social media...tsk, tsk, tsk....

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Was there an issue between SA and Soh? what was the social media dispute with SA is and with whom?

better with reported version according to official source...

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ok, so SA dispute with SOH is SA selected and nominated SOH for SEA GAMES 2019, SNOC turned down the nomination.. instead of supporting SOH with a appeal to SNOC, SA cited unspecified breaches of SA's code of conduct by Soh as a reason for its decision for not appealing.. so Soh vs SA: "show me those breaches"...SA delayed with none as proof...until on the LAST DAY of the previous SA Committee (having lost the Election) then said collected evidence in past months that show SOH indeed has disciplinary issues...comments on social media while as a Sportsman and National Athlete...were evidence...so better face the truth...

Mr Malik personal defamation with SOH...we shall leave with no comments since Mr Malik remain still as Executive Director with the new SA Committee.

It will be up to the new SA Committee to clean up the Mess (as reported in recent ST Forum).

 

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The new SA Committee: Soh Rui Yong and Singapore Athletics... resolve past differences...

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ok, SOH and SA issues are over...

Mr Malik personal defamation with SOH...we leave the matters for both parties to resolve...

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Yes, SOH shall likely be nominated for not only SEA GAMES 2021 Marathon, possibly Commonwealth Games 2022 Marathon

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and Asia Games 2022 (Hangzhou) China Marathon..

Of course, pending on the Court's decision on Liew vs SOH defamation case...once the Truth prevails...SNOC would have to be the next to make a statement....

Pop 🍿 ! Celebrate SOH (Wins) vs SA.

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Pop 🍿 ! Celebrate SOH (Wins) works with committed support form SA new Committee (Wins)...

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