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Marathoner Soh Rui Yong Omitted from SEA Games 2019

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“In the case of the nomination put forward by Singapore Athletics (SA) for Soh Rui Yong’s participation at the 2019 SEA Games, the selection committee has decided to reject SA’s nomination,” SNOC said.

“Since the 2017 SEA Games, there have been numerous instances where Soh has displayed conduct that falls short of the standards of attitude and behaviour that the SNOC expects of and holds its athletes to, considering that they are held up and seen as representatives of the country and as examples to our sporting youth.

“As such, the SNOC has decided to reject SA’s nomination for his national representation at the 2019 SEA Games.”

Full Story:  Marathoner Soh Rui Yong blasts SNOC president Tan Chuan-Jin after SEA Games omission

Wow! Really SNOC? Soh may not be an angel and speaks his mind but I'm not sure he deserved this. His spat between Ashley is a matter before the court. In a sense, the SNOC has made a prejudgement and determined that Soh is wrong in this matter. 

Soh's omission opens a can of worm which I'm not sure if the selection committee fully comprehend. That is a slippery slope. 

Personally, I do not agree with the SNOC's decision. 


 

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2 hours ago, lonewolf said:

Full Story: [urll=https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/marathoner-soh-rui-yong-blasts-snoc-president-tan-chuan-jin-after-sea-games-omission] Marathoner Soh Rui Yong blasts SNOC president Tan Chuan-Jin after SEA Games omission [/url]

Wow! Really SNOC? Soh may not be an angel and speaks his mind but I'm not sure he deserved this. His spat between Ashley is a matter before the court. In a sense, the SNOC has made a prejudgement and determined that Soh is wrong in this matter. 

Soh's omission opens a can of worm which I'm not sure if the selection committee fully comprehend. That is a slippery slope. 

Personally, I do not agree with the SNOC's decision. 

I also don't like Soh's  public display of his personality, but to a large extent that makes him a more genuine person than many others, as he often doesn't hide his words/feelings.

Soh also had a very high chance of defending his 2 time marathon gold medal, and he's not just any small fry that should be easily omitted. The article did mention that there has been numerous disputes between Soh and SNOC, so it should not just be the spat between Ashley which went public. There is definitely more bad blood between Soh and SNOC behind the curtains that led to his omission from the team.


EDIT: From ST here is a brief summary of the disagreements between the two parties:

August 2017: At the SEA Games, Soh breaches the SNOC Team Membership Agreement by promoting his personal sponsors on social media. He is given a formal warning.

Later, he cuts multiple holes in his racing vest, which he wears on his way to his second consecutive gold medal. Singapore Athletics' attire sponsor 2XU terminates its sponsorship SA of four months later.

September 2017: A month before he is to receive $10,000 for his gold medal under the SNOC's Multi-Million Dollar Award Programme (MAP), Soh, citing a lack of support, says he does not wish to give 20 per cent to SA - a requirement under the membership agreement he signed with SNOC. He eventually relents.

October 2018: Soh disputes fellow marathoner Ashley Liew's account of his act of sportsmanship at the 2015 SEA Games - for which the latter received an international award after being nominated by the SNOC.

April 2019: The SNOC serves Soh a legal letter asking him to retract his statements about Liew and the award. Soh does not comply, and SNOC later decides to "reserve its legal rights" as Liew commences his own legal action.

June 2019: In a Facebook post, Soh accuses the SNOC of bias in his dispute with Liew.

August 2019: Soh's nomination for the 2019 SEA Games in Manila is rejected by the SNOC, which says his conduct falls short of the standards it expects of national athletes.

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S’pore SEA Games men’s marathon gold medal streak broken. 

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The marathoners came in 7th and 9th place.

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Singapore long-distance runners Gordon Lim and Loh Yu Ting came in seventh and ninth place on Dec. 6 morning at the Southeast Asian Games marathon event, marking the end of Singapore’s gold medal streak at the men’s marathon event.

It was the first time since 2011 that Singapore failed to obtain a gold medal from the event, nor make it to the podium.

Marathoner Mok Ying Ren first struck gold in 2013 at the SEA Games, while athlete Soh Rui Yong continued the gold medal streak in 2015 and 2017.

Soh, 27, was not selected to be part of the SEA Games 2019 team in August, despite making up 50 per cent of Singapore’s gold medal haul at track and field events in 2017.

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Uncle was proud to be associate with the SA in 2015, as SEA Games Official, on behalf of Asian Athletics Association. Uncle officiated some of the memories of the best efforts of these athletes (due to home ground advantage), included 28th SEA Games Marathon.

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"At the 2015 SEA Games in Singapore, Liew suddenly found himself leading the 12-strong field in the men’s marathon by about 50m after his rivals missed a U-turn and took the wrong path. He said then that he slowed down to almost a crawl in order to wait for them to catchup. https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/marathoner-ashley-liews-account-act-sportsmanship-2015-sea-games-untrue-claims-gold

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"Soh eventually claimed the gold medal in 2hr 34min 56sec, while Thailand’s Srisung Boonthung and Hoang Nguyen Thanh of Vietnam finished second and third respectively.

Liew’s actions were widely publicised and earned him kudos from many Singaporeans, including a mention by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong at the National Day Rally two months later. He was recognised by the SNOC in 2016 with a special award for sportsmanship at the Singapore Sports Awards.

In October that year, he was awarded the accolade in the category of “Act of Fair Play” by the International Committee for Fairplay, which recognises acts of fair play by athletes or sports teams.

However, Soh alleged that Liew’s account of the race — and his act of sportsmanship — was “untrue” in a Facebook post on Sunday. He made the comment after an Oct 13 post by the International Fair Play Committee on their Facebook page, which called Liew a role model for fair play.

He wrote: “I was third place in that race when we took the wrong turn. When we turned around perhaps 50m into the wrong turn, Ashley was already running in the other direction. We took quite a while to catch up to him (at least one to two minutes), he certainly did not stop or slow down to wait for us."

Uncle officiated some of the best field events also, included High jump women sensation, Michelle Sng - 2015 SEA Games (Bronze), and later 2017 SEA Games ( historic Gold).

Any athlete who wins Gold medal, and to stand on the Podium, emotionally, when the National Anthem is played and everyone stands with attention, it is a proud moment for the Country.  

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Of course, saga of SA and Michelle Sng remained...

With Soh out of the 2019 SEA Games, high jumper Michelle Sng is the only defending gold medallist among the athletics squad, who took home eight medals at the last Games (2017).

SA, what will be your KIP (we want nothing but Gold Medal) at SEA Games 2019?

RunSohFast is definitely a missed "Gold" medalist, based on Soh's PB if show up at SEA Games 2019.

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Uncle shall update all until of 10 Dec, 2019.

Yes, uncle had been with SA for more than 5 years since 2011 - involve in IAAF Level 1 Youth Coach (Athletics) and IAAF Level 1 Technical Official.

Aiya, who's who in SA, uncle knows all, saga...Uncle did once talked to Mok Ying Ren (aka Dr Mok, married), he laughed with me that he also got saga with SA (uncle cannot reveal why )...SA is saga-able...uncle also got saga with SA (cannot reveal why also)...

RunSohFast....SohRunFaster...SA, you KPI hangs by Sea Games 2019...ahah...how many Medals (minus 1 Gold Medal already)...hopefully not zero!

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Congrats to Pereira, Veronica Shanti, 200m Woman (Bronze) at 23.77s

Seen Shanti in 2015, She had a gold.

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Consistent performer, and let's wish she can win a medal for 100 meters.

Knew her coach, any raw "gem" when molded to be a champion or medal podium, will always be consistent in performance. Talent is also important for anything sports.

That consistent in performance can also be seen in SohRunFaster...

 

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Some quick comments for the SEA Games athletics while I am watching Nara Marathon 2019 live telecast on YouTube.

1) Without Soh's participation in this SEA Games 2019 due to the ongoing dispute with SA, the new entrant will represent in Singapore for the full marathon event. The time difference from the current SEA Games 2019's men marathon winner - Prayogo Agus - against our debutant: Gordon is twenty minutes. By distance running standard, this is considered a big gap.

2) Seeing it positively, we are letting new athletes getting the exposure to such regional competitions, building up their experience here.

3) Compared to Kohpapa's actual athletics experience, mine is limited to hearing from friends/contacts who worked/interacted with SA, the sentiment towards SA is not positive. At the danger of being marked out by SA, I won't go into the details. 

4) Let's hope the remaining SG athletes do well in the SEA Games here.

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3 hours ago, trailblazer said:

Some quick comments for the SEA Games athletics while I am watching Nara Marathon 2019 live telecast on YouTube.

1) Without Soh's participation in this SEA Games 2019 due to the ongoing dispute with SA, the new entrant will represent in Singapore for the full marathon event. The time difference from the current SEA Games 2019's men marathon winner - Prayogo Agus - against our debutant: Gordon is twenty minutes. By distance running standard, this is considered a big gap.

2) Seeing it positively, we are letting new athletes getting the exposure to such regional competitions, building up their experience here.

3) Compared to Kohpapa's actual athletics experience, mine is limited to hearing from friends/contacts who worked/interacted with SA, the sentiment towards SA is not positive. At the danger of being marked out by SA, I won't go into the details. 

4) Let's hope the remaining SG athletes do well in the SEA Games here.

Thank you trailblazer for your contribution.

Trailblazer,

Good to hear from you for your busy schedule.

From our coaching perspective, training of a prodigy with exceptional qualities or abilities - if "raw" which can be moldered to be a gem. The likelihood of attaining podium standard is easier because their performance is always consistent.

If we look at Ashley Liew as a competitive marathoner who in May 2019, "demands S$120,000 in damages from teammate Soh over ‘false’ claims about sportsmanship act".
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/marathoner-liew-demands-s120000-damages-teammate-soh-over-false-claims-about-sportsmanship

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"Ashley is the first Singaporean to be awarded the Pierre de Coubertin World Fair Play Trophy in the "Act of Fair Play" category. In 2015 SEA Games, during the marathon competition, the lead pack of runners missed a U-turn in the dark about 5.5km into the race and Liew found himself in the lead. But instead of taking advantage, he decided to slow down and wait for the other runners to catch up. With his act of sportsmanship, Ashley reduced his own chances of obtaining a medal position, which was within grasp.

If at 5.5km (a mere 500m advantage due to a U-turn error), a winner can only be determined after 42km, and so 42-5.5km (at least 36km) the lead by Soh if could be "narrowed" with consistent performance by Ashley Liew is only through Fair Play and Sportsmanship (only via exceptional qualities or abilities - the will to win based on self which Soh may have remarked)

Uncle does not want to get embroiled with SA, SNOC or Soh and Liew as the Defamation is still pending. 

What if Liew is to run last Friday for SEA Games 2019, and what will be his consistent performance? No one will really knows, because SohRunFaster will surely say, "Show me if you can conduct a Fair Play and Sportsmanship - Run the Race and let the results proof."

If Liew should repeat his SEA Games 2015 add the advantage of even 1 min (for the gap of 500m advantage), the result will be the same as Gordon Lim, bottom 3 of the SEA Games 2019. 

So, why would Liew wants to proof that defamation is about him as a competitive marathoner as at stake? Simply, SohRunFaster can run even faster in 2019, and win a Gold Medal for Singapore, lol.

Above is based on uncle's observation as what would be a prodigy vs a competitive challenger in terms of consistent performance. The saga could turn out to be a issue of ego and pride, honesty and integrity, of course, nobody will want to tell SA and SNOC that "are you sure?" challenge from SohRunFaster.

As long as SohRunFaster, the outcome of "Fair Play and Sportsmanship" is a re-race period. Perhaps with a disadvantage say 20 mins?

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Congrats to Veronica Shanti Pereira of Singapore, who clocked 11.66 for 100m for Woman Bronze Medal for SEA Games 2019.

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1 hour ago, kohpapa said:

Congrats to Veronica Shanti Pereira of Singapore, who clocked 11.66 for 100m for Woman Bronze Medal for SEA Games 2019.

Indeed!

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From our coaching perspective, training of a prodigy with exceptional qualities or abilities - if "raw" which can be moldered to be a gem. The likelihood of attaining podium standard is easier because their performance is always consistent.

This reminds me of a concept:  Long-Term Athlete Development (LTAD) to develop people with potential to succeed in sports. Ideally, we should start to develop children when they are at young age. However, in Singapore, sporting is not seen as a viable/profitable career compared to the usual career path which is seen more "stable".

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9 hours ago, trailblazer said:

Indeed!

This reminds me of a concept:  Long-Term Athlete Development (LTAD) to develop people with potential to succeed in sports. Ideally, we should start to develop children when they are at young age. However, in Singapore, sporting is not seen as a viable/profitable career compared to the usual career path which is seen more "stable".

SA: 2019 SEA Games Marathon Selection - Replacement of SohRunFaster "The SEA Game is just another marathon" criteria

Who are they in 2019 SEA Games Marathon?  2 months ago based on today's Uncle sharing -

Info is extracted from: https://secondwindnation.com/gordon-lim-surprise-sea-games-marathon/

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Both Mok and  SohRunFaster had consistent performance in 5Km/10Km/21Km/42Km competitions in SA-IAAF/AAF Races including University Youth Meets.

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There development and progressive programs which enabled the 2 outstanding athletes to be podium and worthy candidates for the Nation's Best and Regional Best shows why.

"The SEA Game is just another marathon" selection by SA, had actually derailed from what are the objectives of what the National Sports Body has entrusted to SA, "Where are your Medals to show?". What is your KPI?

If likedat, we got hope for anyone here. 

Wanted: anyone who had been to Berlin Marathon, Boston Marathon, London Marathon, we need to have a replacement National Candidate for SEA Games 2021. Criteria, you must be a worthy Podium candidate.

Agreed with @trailblazer (Coach) 

Long-Term Athlete Development (LTAD) to develop people with potential to succeed in sports. Ideally, we should start to develop children when they are at young age. However, in Singapore, sporting is .....

For the sake of the Nation, please don't STAD - Short-Term Athlete Development. It has never been the Nation's intention to be bestowed a "Fair Play and Sportsmanship" saga reason and win a dishonourable sensational "S’pore SEA Games men’s marathon gold medal streak broken." 

Sports build character. Yes, attitude to win and be the best is personal. What is morally wrong, including even if I am given the finisher or podium medal, it is no longer important anymore. What's more it is just sports, and to have used the excuse of "proof me wrong, that I cheated, lied, and based on "factual accounts", even if at disadvantage of 0.5km, or even to disadvantage of a lead of 1km or 2km, a marathoner runner - the sheer perseverance to compete and win the race, no one can describe that feeling..only the best endured wins period.

Otherwise, show us evidence of consistency performance, on the field, as well as to show us, "Performing Marathoner" face saving grace? What is your Qualifier-to-Proof.

Isn't that the same critieria of 2019 Games Marathon Race? Only the Best represents the Regional Best?

SA KPI - 2 Bronze and 0 Goal. The pressure of Gold is now on Michelle Sng for High Jump (Woman). 

Michelle Sng saga with SA? That one, wait until the event, then we see what's the reaction later on lah...

Enjoy 2019 SEA Games (Athletics) with uncle here, exclusively. 

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How does SA selects Regional Best for a Regional Meet?

Criteria: Minimum Medal Potential, and Qualifying Mark attained in a sanctioned SA-AAF-IAAF Meet such as Asia Athletics Championship Meet held in April 2019

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A prodigy or competitive athlete, coached or otherwise, performance excellence must be "consistent performance" and worthy to represent as Regional Medalist Candidate and Win Medal at Podium (Fair Play and Sportsmanship).

Shanti Veronica Pereira, a prodigy and competitive athlele, coached by Margaret Oh (Specialist Coach in Sprints 100m and 200m) are both congratulated for making Singapore proud for 2019 SEA Games Bronze for both 100m and 200m for Woman.

If from performance-based and consistency criteria, we shall encourage Michelle Sng, having an exceptional effort of 1.70m in her Finals against the best of Asia at position 10. 

Can she repeat her first attempt and clearance of 1.83m at 2017 SEA GAMES performance?

We are behind you, Michelle, for she has gone through pain, injury, as well.... We wish you all the best for the Nation!

9 Dec, 7:10pm High jump women final
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This is a flashback of 2017:

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We awaits the verdict for SA after Michelle Sng's Defending her High Jump Gold Medal (Woman) from SEA Games 2017...2 Medals and counting..

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Michelle Sng, 5th Position at 1.75m

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Jump: Start at 1.65 Cleared. Raise +0.5 at 1.70 Cleared. Raise +0.5 at 1.75 Cleared. Raise +0.3 at 1.78 (Failed with 3 attempts)

Women 100 Meter Hurdles (0.838m) Nur Izlyn, Zaini 21 13.92 -0.1 1998 3/8pos, final, bronze

Congratulation to Nur Izlyn, Zaini for Bronze Women 100 Meter Hurdles (0.838)

As far as uncle knows, there will be no credible Medal athletes for 10 Dec.

SA - 3 Medals (Bronze).

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Uncle salutes to Michelle Sng for her best effort for the Nation with this interview of her painful and also exiting moments when she took up High Jump for Woman because of her passion of "why not?" (info: https://mothership.sg/2018/01/michelle-sng/)

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A prodigy (she says she is not), a performance High Jumper (she says is unexpected), "no pain no gain" and with tears - she had to go through as her journey - making a come-back, an unwilling Champion (humbly just do my best), and she did it for the Nation because there was no representative for the sports she loved and she has passion about it because she participated as a school-girl - just for the sure fun of it.

Thank you, Michelle. You are always the most inspired High Jumper (Gold) and aptly the high jump mama...a respect and inspiration for all here. We wish you the best in everything your heart desire. :)

What's next - SA: a SA-ga-ble NSA.

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Saga 1: The SA's internal carding system - which allocates athletes up to $1,200 per month based on various criteria - had expired month without the necessary follow-up.

(info: https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/officials-say-track-body-must-sort-out-disputes)

 

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Saga 2: Against paying Singapore Athletics share of award money 

(info: https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/football/soh-against-paying-sa-share-of-award)

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Summary: Soh (did not take part), Michelle Sng (did not win a Gold Medal), and Shanti Veronica Pereira ( Collected 2 Bronzes), the 2 Sagas will not affect Shanti Veronica Pereira because she can stay on with the $1,200 monthly allowance, happily with her Coach, and she gets her 2-Bronze Award for her Performance (and surely gladly give 20% to SA). SA will be delighted with the 2-year Excellence Peak Performance Program till 2021.

The greatest loser in the Sagas is Soh because he will not have both - $1,200 monthly allowance, and already based on his PB, he could have collect a Gold Medal from 2019 SEA Games with an Award of $10,000. Even if he will be unwilling to share with the 20% to SA. SA only loss "$2,000" but save $1,200 monthly allowance for Soh for the next 2 years (savings of $28,800). SA -+$28,600 vs Soh -$10,000 - $28,800 (2020-2021)

As for Michelle, she already said she wants to retire in 2017, but the surprise Gold Medal on that year makes her a defending Champion. Pain, Injury and Tears - for every jump. Plus she has reached beyond 30, and to be family-focused should be her entitlement in life. High Jump has given her a sporting life and to announce her honourable retirement from the call of Nation. It will be expected.

SA - which has been controversial from the core. Change the whole SA? How many times have SA changed? Life as Usual. No change is better then to Change. Whatever.

Marathon has been a Gold Medal for SEA Games. We will surely make a comeback. Without SA, marathoning is the only key spark in Athletics that even without $1,200 monthly allowance, Mok and Soh can be regional champions.

So you know what Mok's Saga with SA, "Uncle, you say lah, the $1,200 monthly allowance, don't have money how to go overseas for marathon qualification mark closer to SEA Games, use personal paylah!"

Now, everyone knows what is SAga is about right?

"Money Not Enough, how to run overseas Marathon races."

"What I win, is all Mine not yours, SA." :)

"SA :  gain $28,600 vs Soh minus $10,000 minus $28,800 (2020-2021)"

"Ashley Liew demands S$120,000 in damages from teammate Soh over ‘false’ claims about sportsmanship act still outstanding."  

Uncle wishes SohRunFaster Gets Lots of Money for the year of the Metal Rat (2020).  

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and many Running! :)

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From SA FB:

Overall we managed to achieve 3 medals, of which 3 are a bronze medal.

Results-wise, we achieved 1 PB and 4 SB.

Out of the total 28 events the team contested, 12 are debutants athletes.

Thank you for all the support! The team will be returning back in Singapore arriving Changi Airport on Scoot flight TR387 2350H, 11th December, Wednesday at Terminal 1. See you all there!

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End of SEA Games 2019.

Thank you for reading.

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Just to add on to what kohpapa had contributed, The Straits Time had also published two news articles on the SEA Games 2019. They are quite critical towards athletics and football. The links are as follows:

1) https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/track-football-told-to-buck-up [Last accessed 12 Dec 19]

2) https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/team-singapore-report-card [Last accessed 12 Dec 19] In (2), Athletics was given a grade D and football was given a grade F.

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Looks like uncle got to return for more dramatic events after 2019 SEA Games for SA: (Info: https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/track-team-rocked-by-coach-ohs-departure)

Coach Margaret Oh resigned.

"Ashley Liew demands S$120,000 in damages from teammate Soh over ‘false’ claims about sportsmanship act still outstanding."   

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This is with reference on contradiction on SNOC's statement that a "thorough investigation" been done first. But, it was not the case on Ashley Liew case. 

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Soh and his interview on December 9 on coaching in Marathon

 

 

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Uncle continues SA-saga after 2019 SEA Games with HWZ forum loh..kena PM, "Bro, waiting for what...Total Recall for this one loh"

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Just share, what is resignation from SA:

Coach Margaret Oh shall not coach any SA-IAAF athletes at National Level for Competitions

So, uncle respects Coach Margaret Oh for making a very brave "career terminating" decision for she had decades of past experiences. She produced Regional Podium athletes, and her decision to quit was also due to "internal" saga which uncle shall not start, because we stick to SohRunFaster.

Uncle's saga with SA, yes, resigned as SA Technical Official as well as same as Coach Margaret Oh's decision, any SA-IAAF initiated athletes. Of course, uncle assisted passionately with IAAF-coaches invovled in Endurance training for the youth (grassroots) in Middle Distance and Triathlon (which is not SA-affiliated).

Does Soh has to be IAAF coach certified to become one? No need, as long as you don't want to do with anything SA which includes coaching of National athletes. As a Coach (private), you earn what your clients pay you for the reason, WWM Major Qualifiers, PBs must be sub 3.

As for Soh, he has gained "prodigy" runners which he has planned to develop them further. Yes, a career as a Coach of Marathon to build SEA best. I am not surprised that that he should have support from the SEA Sports Associations as Advisory or Coach of their IAAF runners.

Good one for SohRunFaster and may you have the courage to change, and make the Marathon running as a pride for everyone here, a true blue, Local, Regional and one day World Champion.

Yes, 2:15 is his target, if not through his coaching, someone and more will be in 2:15 and better.

Hope this is last post simply the 2019 sagas have finally come to light and who's right and wrong? Only 2020 with "awakening" actions from both SA and their athletes.

Uncle wishes all who reads, a promising 2020 year for Marathons

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Individual vs. Organization = Component vs. System =  Arm (even finger) vs. Thigh......

Most likely the thigh will always win, why? because "The arm can't twist the thigh". Of course sometimes the "win" doesn't look graceful and even looks fugly... 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 

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who's who in the camp of grievances/disputes:

Soh Rui Yong

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versus 

 

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(info: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/marathoners-spat-soh-rui-yong-seeks-s1-million-over-allegedly-defamatory-comments-website)

Mr Soh had allegedly suffered to his “professional standing and reputation” over three statements that were published by the firm.

The letter states that if the $1 million — S$500,000 each from One Management and Mr Jed — is not paid, along with the other concessions, Mr Soh would issue libel proceedings against them both.

One Management, which is co-founded by Mr Jed and former marathon champion Mok Ying Ren, is the parent company of RunOne and ONEathlete, which manages Mr Liew.

So let's see what happens next...eat popcorn...🍿

 
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Soh vs SA: .....should they refrain from paying us by Friday, 20 December 2019, Foxwood Legal and I will apply to seize SA bank accounts.

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2019 was a fun year for Soh Rui Yong,

HM National Record (1:06:41)
Marathon National Record (2:23:42)

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Merry Christmas 2019.

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    • Update: Uncle ran "Bukit Timah Bike Trail" illegally to explore route...nearly kena       For your interest, Forest Force 50 15KM route on 29th March 2020 (Sun)     Met their production crew at Dairy Farm Nature Park side...while uncle exit to Singapore Quarry... Yes, if uncle kena caught running at Bike Trail, kena FINE is $2,000. Please follow only Hiking (Runner) Trail like this one at Chestnut Nature Park. Got tip from one of the crew "runners" from the Forest Force 50 Organising Committee, go to the Summit from Hindede side to take the route to Daisy Farm Nature Park, and that is the "pipe line" route of Bukit Timah Nature Park. Sounded like the same Forest Force 50 crew also knew about the Trans Singapore routes. Same theme - a "continuous" route.  only 2 trail races here in Singapore... Aiya, for Uncle, if can run these trail routes every weekend, save money and DIY and  "illegally" enter Bike Trail (more challenging terrain like roller coastal)...hope not kena caught...since uncle sneaked into the Bike Trail "only during wee hours from 3-4am with trail lights"...                 Yet to run the full 25km or 50km route, abuthen Forest Force 50 also got same 15km/25km/50km routes only their Start Point is from Daisy Farm Nature Park. Easy lah, crash course, pretend innocently don't know got race on 29th March 2020 (Sun), and DIY with them ( the real runners for races)... Next week, explore "Trail !Ultra Run" route of Trans Singapore 2020.
    • Update: Info and 15KM route video   Follow this video on Volvic Forect Force 15KM route Actually, uncle ran yesterday from Hindede Mountain Bike Trail (illegally, not for runners) and when exited to Singapore Quarry, met this video production crew as well as "acting runners". Even engaged a conversation with one of the "runners" and find out more information.  
    • please contribute your post on anything you have run to this sub-forum thank you for your contribution, enjoy your running experience 👌
    • ^ I was thinking the same thing. I was optimistically hoping for the outbreak to mellow down by summer (for the northern hemisphere) but then I realise even if that happens, the underlying tension might still be there. So I'm just going to sit out on all international marathons until WHO declares the end of pandemic. Support local events for now!     
    • 2:55! Wow!😅  I don't think I'll ever get to that level since I'm getting on in years... I did consider doing the Sydney Marathon (September) or the CIty to Surf for Active Marathon in Perth (August) instead of my Oct or Nov race, but I'm hesitating. (I don't know if I'll get flagged/scolded by the admins for saying this here) but in Australia I occasionally come across people who, uhm let me just describe as... "not nice". They may not be openly shaking their fists in your face telling you to get out of their country, but they sure will make you feel unwelcome- even if you're not doing anything wrong, are acting on your best manners, and speak fluent English (I grew up in America). You know what I mean? 😓 Now with this virus scare going on, I'm worried they may not treat Asians too well (or even worse) 😨 The world is a big place, and there are many other places to go to in the meantime...
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