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Newton Challenge 2017 - 29 Oct (Sun), Marina Barrage

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end Oct once more for runners to prepare for the SCSM.. it is usually the date/weekend to run the last LSD to prepare for SCSM so this race is preparing runners for just that...

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4 hours ago, AutumnRunner said:

end Oct once more for runners to prepare for the SCSM.. it is usually the date/weekend to run the last LSD to prepare for SCSM so this race is preparing runners for just that...

Actually is this really the last LSD for many runners? For those slack runners like me, I would think so coz I won't have time for another like this. But for those aiming for PBs or follow a stricter training regime, there is still 5 weeks before the actual run. Surely they will still have a few more LSDs before the actual SCSM, no?

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I am disappointed with the introduction of a new category 10km into Newton Challenge. I took part in Newton Challenge last year in the 21km category, had a great experience. With 10km category, this likely would attract more walkers to sign up for this race and making the route congested.

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19 minutes ago, TimeMachinex said:

I am disappointed with the introduction of a new category 10km into Newton Challenge. I took part in Newton Challenge last year in the 21km category, had a great experience. With 10km category, this likely would attract more walkers to sign up for this race and making the route congested.

If 10km flags off much later after the 32km and 21km it will be fine.

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3 hours ago, beast said:

Actually is this really the last LSD for many runners? For those slack runners like me, I would think so coz I won't have time for another like this. But for those aiming for PBs or follow a stricter training regime, there is still 5 weeks before the actual run. Surely they will still have a few more LSDs before the actual SCSM, no?

it really depends on the training structure... it can be the peak distance before tapering or it can be one of the LSD run to peak in the next 1 to 2 weeks

 

3 hours ago, TimeMachinex said:

I am disappointed with the introduction of a new category 10km into Newton Challenge. I took part in Newton Challenge last year in the 21km category, had a great experience. With 10km category, this likely would attract more walkers to sign up for this race and making the route congested.

yes @benchy is right... the timing together with the route are important...

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Posted (edited)

No heads up at all and all of a sudden, they announced that registration is opened. :o

Edited by K!m

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looks like it's a race that starts from Marina Barrage and runs part of it in ECP and some along Nicoll Highway/City...

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14 minutes ago, AutumnRunner said:

looks like it's a race that starts from Marina Barrage and runs part of it in ECP and some along Nicoll Highway/City...

No lah. They will probably use last yr route. No need to reinvent the wheel. Like when they were previously held in ECP, the route has remained the same for yrs. 

No reason to think it won't be otherwise this yr. Refresher on last yr route/ 57fcc158d9fb8_2016-10-31NC21K.thumb.jpg.e9a691e37522dc319cfd0b30d7a2a295.jpg57fcc15c79468_2016-10-31NC32K.thumb.jpg.0ce13853328216753c365876de84dbc8.jpg

 

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actually i was secretly hoping for some city route cause running too long in ECP can be tough esp in the early morning where the sea view is hampered by darkness....

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Did they still give out cold towel and post run food in the last year? Looks like nobody mentioned or remembered that this is one of the first runs to provide post run towel and food...

 

On 5/9/2017 at 1:42 PM, TimeMachinex said:

I am disappointed with the introduction of a new category 10km into Newton Challenge. I took part in Newton Challenge last year in the 21km category, had a great experience. With 10km category, this likely would attract more walkers to sign up for this race and making the route congested.

I didn't notice that they introduce the 10km category until you mentioned it.

Yes seems like they are pushing for logistics issues by introducing another large group of runners. Even with different start times, the end point at Marina Barrage is going to be super crowded with the 3 large crowd of runners.

17 hours ago, AutumnRunner said:

actually i was secretly hoping for some city route cause running too long in ECP can be tough esp in the early morning where the sea view is hampered by darkness....

Don't know why you had this unrealistic hope in the first time...

Its 32km leh... how to plan for a city route of 32km? Even it is possible, it would be very loopy....

Also, if this is meant to be a lead up to SCSM, isn't running at ECP a way to get FM runners getting used to the run at ECP at those early hours? 

Lastly, I don't know why the sea view is an issue here...

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1 hour ago, beast said:

Did they still give out cold towel and post run food in the last year? Looks like nobody mentioned or remembered that this is one of the first runs to provide post run towel and food....

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I think they still give cold towel but honestly, I can't remember. 

The post run food is still there. But the quality and quantity have deteriorated over the years. So probably the reason why nobody mentioned it nowadays because it's nothing 'to write home about' if you know what I mean. :crazysmile:

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2 hours ago, beast said:

Don't know why you had this unrealistic hope in the first time...

Its 32km leh... how to plan for a city route of 32km? Even it is possible, it would be very loopy....

Also, if this is meant to be a lead up to SCSM, isn't running at ECP a way to get FM runners getting used to the run at ECP at those early hours? 

Lastly, I don't know why the sea view is an issue here...

running ECP for 32.195km VS running ECP at 18km plus city at 14.195km.. which would you prefer? it's a preference issue and I would surely choose the latter...

And this year ironman had announced that Runners will not have to run 20km of ECP. There will be ECP but it will just be a very small portion. So why wanna get used to running 32.195km of ECP right?

Sea view... nvm.. it's a preference issue again...

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2 hours ago, beast said:

Did they still give out cold towel and post run food in the last year? Looks like nobody mentioned or remembered that this is one of the first runs to provide post run towel and food...

Yup they gave cold towels.

1 hour ago, lonewolf said:

I think they still give cold towel but honestly, I can't remember. 

The post run food is still there. But the quality and quantity have deteriorated over the years. So probably the reason why nobody mentioned it nowadays because it's nothing 'to write home about' if you know what I mean. :crazysmile:

Yeah, the post-race food was forgettable; I got my expectations up from the reviews of previous years' races! Had to go back to my review (https://medium.com/@benchia/newton-challenge-2016-962e97b63522) to recall that they gave fried rice and fried noodles for mains, and a free flow of ice cream (Potong) and cold tau huay.

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1 hour ago, lonewolf said:

I think they still give cold towel but honestly, I can't remember. 

The post run food is still there. But the quality and quantity have deteriorated over the years. So probably the reason why nobody mentioned it nowadays because it's nothing 'to write home about' if you know what I mean. :crazysmile:

ice cold towel is still provided till 2015. I missed out on 2016 version though. I have many small towels at home used for various purposes so I remember it.

https://autumnrunner.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/newton-challenge-2015/

The main meals in the first 2 photographs and the snacks in the 3rd photograph.

Nasi Lemak all well arranged

Pastries consist of pandan cake, curry puff, cream puff, nuggets.

Butter cookies, Ice cream, Yogurt, bananas.

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14 minutes ago, AutumnRunner said:

running ECP for 32.195km VS running ECP at 18km plus city at 14.195km.. which would you prefer? it's a preference issue and I would surely choose the latter...

And this year ironman had announced that Runners will not have to run 20km of ECP. There will be ECP but it will just be a very small portion. So why wanna get used to running 32.195km of ECP right?

Sea view... nvm.. it's a preference issue again...

I think I misunderstood what you are trying to say again...

When you say this I actually thought that you mean you are hoping for the 32km entirely in the city:

"actually i was secretly hoping for some city route cause running too long in ECP can be tough esp in the early morning where the sea view is hampered by darkness...."

Do you mean you are happy with last year's route where there is some non-ECP route (I won't consider it city route actually coz its essentially just gardens by the bay + marina barrage), versus the previous years when the entire stretch is at ECP?

If you mean you are hoping some parts of it to be in the city + ECP, it is definitely doable but with road closures and all this will definitely jack up the race prices which I already find it leaning towards the expensive side.

 

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1 hour ago, lonewolf said:

I think they still give cold towel but honestly, I can't remember. 

The post run food is still there. But the quality and quantity have deteriorated over the years. So probably the reason why nobody mentioned it nowadays because it's nothing 'to write home about' if you know what I mean. :crazysmile:

I think they raised the bar too high that people expected too much out of it haha. Any post race food is still something to write home about though, because none of the other regular runs (more than 3 editions) provide post race food (besides bananas).

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All in all, for runners who signed up for SCSM, this Newton run can act as part of your LSD run.. it's something worthwhile to consider esp when we all know it is Very difficult to wake up so early in the morning to clock in 30+km of running....

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if they intro 10k and get a lot of sign-ups, having all the post-race food would be a logistics challenge (either not enough or lots of waste, depending...)

 

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18 minutes ago, kcslchin said:

if they intro 10k and get a lot of sign-ups, having all the post-race food would be a logistics challenge (either not enough or lots of waste, depending...)

 

We shall see how they manage.. I think.they would just order equal to the number of runners who signed up.

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1 minute ago, AutumnRunner said:

We shall see how they manage.. I think.they would just order equal to the number of runners who signed up.

Have to see how.

Previously anyone notice whether the food all consumed or lots of leftovers?

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10 minutes ago, kcslchin said:

Have to see how.

Previously anyone notice whether the food all consumed or lots of leftovers?

Can't comment as I didn't stay till the end, but they do allow runners to take 2nd serving as there is no sort of marking in the bib after collection.. there was a year that they implemented this...

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1 hour ago, kcslchin said:

if they intro 10k and get a lot of sign-ups, having all the post-race food would be a logistics challenge (either not enough or lots of waste, depending...)

 

I think I will need to run my 21km fast hoping there will still be food left at Marina Barrage finish point. :(

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14 hours ago, kcslchin said:

Have to see how.

Previously anyone notice whether the food all consumed or lots of leftovers?

 

In 2013 and 2014, there was no restriction so there was very little wastage. But in 2014, I ran a slow race and a lot of the food was gone by the time I finished.

In 2015, they started controlling the food. There was a lot of food leftover. Maybe because the food provided was terrible.

In 2016, it seems they managed the amount of food better since the leftover seems to be less than 2015.

All the above observations were made at roughly the same time (after the lucky draw ends). 

The food in 2013 was the best. (Subway sandwiches FTW!)  Can't comment on 2014 since I din get any. 2015 food was terrible. 2016 food was slightly better than 2015. 

Some runners also dun bother taking any of the food so leftovers are probably inevitable even if they cater 1-for-every-bib-registered. Of cos, many will register and dun turn up too. They should let runners take 2nd round after the race cut-off. Better than letting it all go to waste. 

 

 

 

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