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as what @NoobieRunner said, not all that stopped running are due to injuries... sometimes its just the lack of discipline and just want relax a bit more... or sometimes run till a point that sees no improvement can be part of the reason... I also just hope that I can keep going forever, although the reality is so true that PBs are not forever, But I am sure there will be other kinds of running related PBs that I can find to boost myself to keep running...

I also agree with @jerrylam that we should not just keep run without thinking for the body.. running a Full Marathon really takes a good bash to our body system... for those who had been running awhile or into the "not so young" age, can also realize that recovery takes a bit slower and injury seems to be easier to attack us....

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20 minutes ago, AutumnRunner said:

as what @NoobieRunner said, not all that stopped running are due to injuries... sometimes its just the lack of discipline and just want relax a bit more... or sometimes run till a point that sees no improvement can be part of the reason... I also just hope that I can keep going forever, although the reality is so true that PBs are not forever, But I am sure there will be other kinds of running related PBs that I can find to boost myself to keep running...

I also agree with @jerrylam that we should not just keep run without thinking for the body.. running a Full Marathon really takes a good bash to our body system... for those who had been running awhile or into the "not so young" age, can also realize that recovery takes a bit slower and injury seems to be easier to attack us....

Exactly! You got my point there. Cannot keep pushing for PBs at FM after FM, very bad for the body. Time to take things slower....like running an ultra :lol:

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2 minutes ago, jerrylam said:

Exactly! You got my point there. Cannot keep pushing for PBs at FM after FM, very bad for the body. Time to take things slower....like running an ultra :lol:

yea... that's why you are into Ultra now....

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19 hours ago, NoobieRunner said:

Noobie not sure of some other reasons but some gave up definitely because of injury. At first Noobie saw one of them wearing one leg brace. Then 2. Even at that stage was walking with a bow leg walking gait. And yet still pushed on running marathons. Not just 1 but something like 15-20 over per year. Now no longer can do marathons but only do 10K or HM and HM result around 3h30 or 4h. 

Then another Noobie met a few months back. Become super  bui bui already. But last time when running Noobie remember he  very haolian. When overtake Noobie, go and scold Noobie to run faster. Then when met up the last time, talk so humble and low tone voice. Said doctor told him he don't have a marathoner physique in the first place. Now injured and only doing the occasional 5K fun run. Shook Noobie hand and told Noobie to keep it up. 

A Cautionary Tale for Runners (2017 Noobie Publications)

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I attended the talk given by Running Convention ealier this year, one of the quest speaker (rehab specialist) commented most runner forget is we need to train the necessary muscle to take the pounding from long distance running. Running alone will not able to support the necessary pounding. 

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20 minutes ago, Arvin Tunas said:

I attended the talk given by Running Convention ealier this year, one of the quest speaker (rehab specialist) commented most runner forget is we need to train the necessary muscle to take the pounding from long distance running. Running alone will not able to support the necessary pounding. 

Except pure running, i do push ups and planks to strengthen the arms and core. I also cycle occasionally to strengthen the quads and for recovery. That's all i do along with my running, and i hope they are sufficient. 

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27 minutes ago, Arvin Tunas said:

I attended the talk given by Running Convention ealier this year, one of the quest speaker (rehab specialist) commented most runner forget is we need to train the necessary muscle to take the pounding from long distance running. Running alone will not able to support the necessary pounding. 

this is what we usually called upon as Cross training. But did the specialist mentioned which specific part of the muscle to train? In my view, I thought that running alone would be able to train the specific parts of muscles that you require in your daily pounding and they would get stronger day by day with precaution on all the rules for running.. and of course this is for mortals like us who just run for fitness and health BUT not to win races...

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58 minutes ago, AutumnRunner said:

this is what we usually called upon as Cross training. But did the specialist mentioned which specific part of the muscle to train? In my view, I thought that running alone would be able to train the specific parts of muscles that you require in your daily pounding and they would get stronger day by day with precaution on all the rules for running.. and of course this is for mortals like us who just run for fitness and health BUT not to win races...

Have to sidetrack a bit from the main running thread to answer your post (with bold italic emphasis).

The rehab specialist made a good point which running alone is not going to train your specific muscles as runners tend to neglect whole body training to stay injury free or improve performance. Jerry has stated push ups and planks which are good strength training exercises here. I don't wish to flood the posts with sports science articles on the usefulness of cross/strength/resistance training, so I will post this particular article by Jason Fitzgerald (owner of strength running website and also co-founder of runyourBQ program to help runners qualify for Boston Marathon) on 5 good exercises for runners  (see the link at http://strengthrunning.com/2015/07/best-strength-exercises-for-runners/ ).

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that's good sharing by @trailblazer.. these are definitely beneficial to running, couldn't agree more...

actually I was trying to decipher Arvin Tuna's sentence that one need to train a specific muscle to take the pounding. So I thought there is a special muscle (at the leg portion) where it can be trained to cushion the pounding from running... hahaha

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I would personally think that the specific leg muscle's efficiency is the sum of the whole. If only the legs are trained but not the the core, then the body and posture will be weak or compromised, which will probably create more stress to the legs as they keep trying to compensate for the other weaker parts of the body that are breaking down first. 

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I agree with @jerrylam on the overall efficiency of the entire body... this would be more for runners who averages 30km and above weekly.. for those who runs less and less often, the core might not matter much since performance is not the priority...

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21 hours ago, AutumnRunner said:

Actually I was trying to decipher Arvin Tuna's sentence that one need to train a specific muscle to take the pounding. So I thought there is a special muscle (at the leg portion) where it can be trained to cushion the pounding from running... hahaha

Sadly no special muscle, at least for running. 

Basically similar to @jerrylam, it is the overall body itself legs and the core. For casual runners don't really affect that much, but for those participating in few marathons/half marathons per year or back to back events perhaps want to look into strengthening the muscle to help reduce the effect in later years.  

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On 5/25/2017 at 9:31 AM, Arvin Tunas said:

Sadly no special muscle, at least for running. 

Basically similar to @jerrylam, it is the overall body itself legs and the core. For casual runners don't really affect that much, but for those participating in few marathons/half marathons per year or back to back events perhaps want to look into strengthening the muscle to help reduce the effect in later years.  

 

Whether one is a casual or serious runner, staying injury free from exercise is still a top priority. You don't want to be injured or not being able to do an activity you like. One trend I notice is people don't tend to rest enough, paying the penalty for trying to do too much at one shot.

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Yes   i am a pure supporter of x-training a la humping, can do multiple times per day...but now in my 50s, get fatigued fast...more than 60 different positions....oops....hahahahaha

But really when they talk about run related exercises, they always talk about core muscles building.  And a hot muscles n in thing is the glute now...muscle from thigh to buttock.. google it...ny fav too  can be strengthen thru doggie too    oops    ....hahahaha

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2 hours ago, jerrylam said:

Talk about Xiao Lang, Kilian Jornet summitted the peak of Everest twice in a week...and broke his own PB too. Jin jin xiao lang!! 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2188826/kilian-jornet-breaks-his-own-fastest-known-time-everest

ya I read that too... without oxygen tanks.. meaning he is able to breath in very thin amount of oxygen while doing such strenuous exercise.... :goodjob:... we cant even breath properly during a normal run on earth... :lol:

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