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Standard Chartered Marathon Singapore - 2-3 Dec 2017

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They may be afraid that the slots will not be sold out.

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Not sure if the earlier registration is a marketing move to quickly capture disgruntled runners who just had a bad running experience from Sundown.

Ironman had proven themselves to be a fairly competent organizer last year. Would be interesting to see if what Ironman will announce prior to the sign up. Hope they do away with the digital queue and bring back the mrt transportation option.

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This year no excuse to have no MRT as they had finished with the changing of track pillar. 

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1 hour ago, mover said:

This year no excuse to have no MRT as they had finished with the changing of track pillar. 

This year testing the new signals right? :lol:

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Hopefully there is a new route, or else, the same route over and over again....Ai yoh. dun know run how many times the same thingy..

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1 hour ago, AdiZero said:

Hopefully there is a new route, or else, the same route over and over again....Ai yoh. dun know run how many times the same thingy..

Did you run last year? It was technically a new route.

Sadly there isn't much variation of route that you can play around with. And there is no escape of ECP for at least 16km for sure. 

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Wow!!!! From taking my money in July for a December race, they now want it as early as April?

But already so profitable this event......

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That's so early, considering SCMS 2016 was 4 month ago!

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New information released on website, with backpack, phone armband + finisher photo.

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54 minutes ago, nnantasy said:

New information released on website, with backpack, phone armband + finisher photo.

Ohh...even the prices are released.

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2016-12-04 SCMS16_RegistrationFees .jpg

 

This is the fee list for last year. Don't see an increase in price leh. 

 

 

 

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No increase in price sounds good.... some entitlements as below... there is cold towel this year after the run.... and they have decided to give backpack and phone armband... no more drawstring bags for the race pack.... sounds like an improvement from last year..

Running Tee

Running Tee

Finisher Tee for Marathon/Ekiden runners

Finisher Tee for Marathon/Ekiden runners

Backpack

Backpack

Phone Armband

Phone Armband

Cold Towel at Finish Line

Cold Towel at Finish Line

Finisher Medal

Finisher Medal

1x Race Photo

1x Race Photo

Race Day Medical Insurance

Race Day insurance

STANDARD CHARTERED CARDHOLDERS GET 15% OFF
THEIR REGISTRATION FEES

SCMS 2016 PARTICIPANTS GET 10% OFF SUPER EARLY BIRD
RATE (OFFER VALID UNTIL 7 MAY)

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1 point for SCMS Goodie Pack

0 point for SDMS Goodie Pack

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21 minutes ago, K!m said:

1 point for SCMS Goodie Pack

0 point for SDMS Goodie Pack

let's wait till the entitlements are truly delivered before we conclude.... hahah

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Contemplating to run full marathon for the first time. Hope the ECP section will not be that horrible.

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4 hours ago, beast said:

2016-12-04 SCMS16_RegistrationFees .jpg

This is the fee list for last year. Don't see an increase in price leh. 

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There will only be no increase if you managed to sign up during the Super Early Bird period last yr.

As I am not a StandChart customer, I could only secure my slot at the Early bird price as the Super Early Slots were taken up in the first 2 days. 

So in that regard, if I sign up this yr during the Super Early Bird (not restricted to slots hopefully) then with the 10%, I would actually be paying lower this yr! :crazysmile:

BUT ... 

I just notice this 'ALL REGISTRATION COSTS ARE SUBJECT TO 8% ACTIVE FEE' :shok:80

So net net .. maybe like you said, no increase... :crazysmile: but dun know what the hell is this 'Active Fee' 

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my goodness what is this active fee? be active still must pay fee? might as well encourage ppl to be lazy sua....

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3 hours ago, lonewolf said:

There will only be no increase if you managed to sign up during the Super Early Bird period last yr.

As I am not a StandChart customer, I could only secure my slot at the Early bird price as the Super Early Slots were taken up in the first 2 days. 

So in that regard, if I sign up this yr during the Super Early Bird (not restricted to slots hopefully) then with the 10%, I would actually be paying lower this yr! :crazysmile:

BUT ... 

I just notice this 'ALL REGISTRATION COSTS ARE SUBJECT TO 8% ACTIVE FEE' :shok:80

So net net .. maybe like you said, no increase... :crazysmile: but dun know what the hell is this 'Active Fee' 

There is no increase even if I register during the early bird and normal periods last year and register during the same period again this year. It is across the board so I don't understand why it is only applicable if we register during the super early board period. 

Anyway, someone asked about the "Active Fee" on their Facebook Page, and this is their reply:

"the 8% is an administration fee on race entries for our registration platform Active Networks".

I did a check and found that in previous years SCMS never used this for their registration. So I guess this year instead of absorbing the costs to maintain the registration system themselves, they outsourced the registration platform to Active Networks, which in turn charges runners an admin fee for using their platform to register for the race.

The Active Network registration platform is not new and is actually being used in quite a number of runs. Just that these runs were not the more popular ones and so nobody brought up this additional admin fee before.
http://www.active.com/running?clckmp=activecom_home_localeventspromo_running

Another quick check of some of these runs - while I never bothered to try signing up to find out if an admin fee was charged in other runs as well, many of them did not mention about this admin fee on their website.

So was the admin fee implemented because they expect a higher volume of registrations for this run, or was there any other reason behind this additional admin charge? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Unless SCMS uses its own platform in previous years (which I doubt), it would have had to pay admin fees or charges to the registration platform provider anyway. So the admin charge for previous years was "hidden" as part of the race registration fees previously. 

By separating the 8% admin fee for Active this year, it would seem on surface that the organizers are trying to be "transparent". To put it more crudely, make it seem like they never raise fees and the additional 8% is not in their control. 

However, if we buy the idea that maintaining a registration platform is not free, there would have been charges incurred to get another vendor to do it in previous years anyway. Even if they had done it themselves, it would still involved costs. After all, nothing is free and there would have been maintenance costs  

From this perspective, the "no increase" in registration fees this year is actually an increase. - since the admin platform fee was adsorbed as part of the registration fee in previous years. What we don't know is how much of an "increase" this is, as we don't know what % admin cost SCMS had to pay last year. 

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Posted (edited)

I did notice the admin fees yesterday but thought that it's inclusive in the registration fees just like most runs that we ran... so this time they had opened up and indicate that this 8% goes directly to the vendor who is managing the system and they are not the one who absorbed as profit...

in other words, this meant that SCMS is trying to tell runners that they did not increase the registration fees and put all blame and focus on the 8% incurred by the vendor, who of course have the rights... so in comparison to 2016's rates, once we include the 8% fees, there is an increase in the registration fees in totality for runners, no matter where the $$ goes to...

Edited by AutumnRunner

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16 hours ago, AutumnRunner said:

let's wait till the entitlements are truly delivered before we conclude.... hahah

I only foresee that there won't be enough cold towels or they would turn out to be hot towels instead.

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10 hours ago, beast said:

There is no increase even if I register during the early bird and normal periods last year and register during the same period again this year. It is across the board so I don't understand why it is only applicable if we register during the super early board period. 

 
 

Last yr, the Super Early bird were limited by slots and with a 2-day priority registration for StandChart customers, you won't be able to secure the Super Early bird slots unless you are a StandChart member. So you end up paying the Early Bird rate.

This yr the Super Early Bird does not seems to be limited by slots, so if you signed up before 7 May, you will probably pay less than last yr. But with the additional 8% active fee, the savings is probably negated a bit.

I paid $67.50 last  yr for the HM during the Early Bird with 10% discount. This yr, I will pay $63.18 for the HM (after 10% discount off $65 and add 8%) during the Super Early Bird. So yeah, a bit less this yr. 

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