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  1. Frankly I wont make such hasty conclusion. You cannot assume that just from causal observations that you may have made from participating in a few overseas events. And I would even suggest that its not a like-for-like comparison since as you point out no finisher tee are offered in the first place. If finisher tee are offered, maybe you will see the same phenomenon that we observed in Singapore. As just for avoidance of doubt, when you say 'every race is just another big walk' I think you need to be clear who you are talking about. Does this includes the competitive walkers who were walking the entire FM route? (They were fast!) What about those who are adopting a run-walk-run strategy? What about me who run the first HM and walked the rest? Am I considered one of those who are turning every race into another big walk? Personally I like to meet someone who has never ever walk in every single race and every single training run that he did. maybe i should be clearer a bit. I am not targeting at people whom u have mentioned. I am generally referring to the people who just sign up for the sake of the finisher tee and medals. Those who signed up and took the effort to train for it of course deserves credit points and respect. Its the people who take things lightly and not respecting the distances and the spirit of competition makes a run look bad. And sadly, I believe this category of people who adopt the sign up and walk attitude has more than those who sign up and train and run attitude. which is why, I am for the point that SCMS, being the last race and the most 'prestigious' race in SG race calendar, adopt a more stringent measure. SCMS should be a sort of 'report card' for runners to see how they have fared for the entire year and not another community run. We have plenty of such community run all year round.
  2. so running just for event/finisher tee? HKSCM does not have a finisher tee or finisher medal for 21k. Only finisher medal for FM. Yet, every year, within a couple of hours if not days, slots are fully taken up. I know of people who take leave just to camp in front of the com to get a slot. HKSCM only offer a medallion and an event tee. I can only summarise one thing for races held overseas. The race is prestigious in the minds of the participants. The ability to run such race reflects one's commitment and respect to the event. Event tees, medals are intangible. To be able to take part and complete the distance within the stipulated timings are what spurs these people on. Majority of the runners in SG need to have such spirits. If not, every race is just another big walk. To me, entering a race is a reflection of how well your training has progressed. A race is the only time where the roads are closed for u to run and the official timing reflects your training progress. I hope those tees in East Timor (etc) are donated and not sold over there. i m using some of my 21k finisher tees as rugs n cloths.
  3. I think one way the race experience can be improved is the have better defined starting zones. Seeded/VIP(??)/under 5/over 5 is a too much of a blunt instrument. The difference between a 3hr vs 4:59hr marathoner, is much greater than that if a 5:01hr vs 7hr marathoner. Its too difficult to rely on self seeding within the sub 5hr group to ensure that everyone, serious and not so, will have a fair and pleasant experience. Faster runners wont be blocked, slower runners can do so at their own pace without blocking anyone. It would be a good idea to publish the criteria for each group like what many overseas races do. For example: Seeded (approved international athletes, local elites, athletes with proven sub 2:30 for men, sub 3:00 women) Priority (eg proven sub 2:45 men, proven sub 3:15 women) Group 1: sub 3:30, Group 2: sub 4:30, Group 3: sub 5:30, Group 4: Sub 6:30, Group 5: above: 6:30 I think its unfortunate that the whole setup (Gold label accreditation and all) seems to be geared excessively towards the international elites vying for the prize money/TV viewers/tourism promotion, at the expense of the remaining 99+% of participants (narrow chokepoints, merging of different races causing congestion, running out of water/bananas late into race; these issues dont affect the elites at all). There is so much more that can be improved on. something like tht has been done before and it flopped. starting pen based on finishing time. The problem with it is, there is nothing to check or verify. As for elites runners, they are automatically ushered to the front as long as they reach the race site before start time. As for those sub 3hrs runners, they r serious runners. They will head down to race site at least 2hrs before start time to warm up and to Q up at start pen to ensure they are right at the front of the pack.
  4. every race is a big walk. i do know of people who join without training. their respond is just, aiya, run also complete, walk also complete why bother to train.
  5. to organizers, only the top positions which affects monetary reward affects them. And they cldnt be bothered even after the incident which happened few years back? One guy, totally unknown ran faster thn Mok Yin Ren. This man made the whole organizing management team jump and searching for clues to who this guy is... Its about high time they do something to these people. They shld consider issuing medals and t-shirts only after official results r out. Those who missed checkpoints and finish above cut off timing are considered DNF. In this way, cheaters will be totally removed. But the problem about timing at checkpoints is that sometimes their timing system can also cock-up. Like last year I remembered something about many runners' time not captured because of a flaw in the timing chip. Then there is also a problem whereby runners not stepping on the timing mat. So if I (as the organiser) would follow strictly to not giving medals and finisher tee to those who have missed checkpoint timing, any 'innocent' runner who in no fault on his/her was unable to get the timing, then all hell would broke lose from complaints and all that. On the other hand, if I was to just heck care and give out medals indiscriminately, the only people who would complain are those who feel that justice and fairness must ultimately prevail, which I can feel is smaller in number. And since everyone who finished (honestly or not) is given the medal and tee, the number who feels the injustice will be even smaller. So I will choose the lesser of 2 evils. if its really due to technical fault, then benefit of the doubt shld be given and all runners will be given the entitlement. but what I would really see SCMS do is, to limit the amt of runners for both FM and HM. Lower the cut off timing. And to show proof of completion from previous race in order to be granted a race slot. And slots to be awarded to those who are well above the cut off time and then followed by lottery system for people who are on the borderline. And to be able to claim that it is the most prestigious race in the SG race calendar due to the Gold Label, it must first get the right runners to participate. It must make people work hard towards it and make them truly feel the prestige to be able to run in SCMS.
  6. to organizers, only the top positions which affects monetary reward affects them. And they cldnt be bothered even after the incident which happened few years back? One guy, totally unknown ran faster thn Mok Yin Ren. This man made the whole organizing management team jump and searching for clues to who this guy is... Its about high time they do something to these people. They shld consider issuing medals and t-shirts only after official results r out. Those who missed checkpoints and finish above cut off timing are considered DNF. In this way, cheaters will be totally removed.
  7. Imo, to truely make it into a race worthy event, they shld stop looking at numbers. Remove e notion of giving everyone a chance to run. They need to limit e numbers of runners for each cat, lower cut off timings and to show prove of previous completion within cut off time. With all these done, they can then better manage their resources. Rather than trying to cater to unknown crowds.
  8. The burning bridge... like this term cause everyone was like being bbq-ed on the bridge with nowhere to go... and i see many walkers trying to squeeze themselves to the most right of the bridge for some shade... which didnt help much... Highway to hell sounds more apt. And wht makes it worst is tht my mp3 player was playing it right after e 10k water point.
  9. used to have that upslope of ECP too in the past. But they removed it for the HM category. . Thankfully... And FM , they didn't... And this HM is the brutal one than any other HM .. yea. tht slope. i rmbr. but this year they compensated tht with a longer distance on AYE
  10. sigh.......... once again. cant fall asleep after the run. Tht is my problem with gels. Turning and tossing in bed for the past 2hrs and still wide awake. Body is tired but the mid is damn awake.. did the 21k. Saw up to 5 casualties. there is this one ang moh lying on stretcher covered in pee n poo. Looks quite bad. and another girl totally dazed sitting down lying against the wall attended by medic.... the route after sentosa along the expressway is totally unforgiving really lived up to its name of 'Unforgiving Bridge'.. A lot of people gave up running along that stretch. But what I like is the run into CBD area. Totally new and refreshing. But what I wished they would do in future is to reduce the distance on the bridge for the benefit of most runners. Probably remove the bridge sector. Exit Sentosa and head left along the road and under the bridge, u-turn and head into Cantonment, go into Chinatown and then back to end point via CBD. This should be an interesting route... but wht surprised me was the free flow of apples and pastries n puffs n water at the float. it was there for all to take n enjoy.
  11. one best way to beat the Q. take the last train to town and then camp there.
  12. Good news.. train services gonna start as early as 2.40am
  13. OK. Sound great but also a little superficial as well. But this overseas noob should tread carefully and probably not comment further until I had experience a marathon with great spectator support for myself. Dun want to unwittingly step on anyone's toes. I remembered my HK SCM run. Somewhere along the star ferry terminal area, ppl r giving out fishballs, cakes, bananas. Totally didnt expect tht. It was something new for me. And 1.5km before the end when u come down frm the bridge of no return, spectators are alrdy lining up cheering for u. Totally different from what one will experience in SG and MY. Even Malaysia even are not anywhere close to HK SCM.To me, HK SCM was a top notch event. The race experience was wonderful. This is the reason why race slots r always sold out within few hours of release. And I do know of ppl who take leave just to camp in frnt of the com just to get a slot. And it still baffles me how did SCMS get its gold label whilr HK is only a silver medal.
  14. helloooooo!!!!!

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    1. metallilan

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    2. Jackie

      Jackie

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