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  1. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Sigh... let's not enter into the debate of which is the original newton challenge again... To me the Challenge32 resembles more of the original newton challenge because it falls under the same period, its held at east coast park and it has the signature 32km route. It is unfortunate that Newton did not agree to sponsor the run anymore, but later lends its name to Spacebib to the virtual run format. I totally forgotten about the virtual run till you guys reminded me again. In any case yes let's hope it doesn't gets canned next year, though a lot of damage to the run's brand name has already been made.
  2. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Did Newton Challenge become an online/virtual run? I thought another race organizer took over and it was still a mass run event that happened...
  3. beast

    50 Hours Non-stop Run 2019 (19 Apr - 21Apr)

    Same as well. Own time Own Target. You can go off course, stop and pause at any of the checkpoint and come back later. For Craze ultra the checkpoints are quite well stocked with food (fruits, biscuits, cup noodles if you are running 101km) so I don't think anyone bothered with carrying their oenw ration.
  4. beast

    50 Hours Non-stop Run 2019 (19 Apr - 21Apr)

    Respect and congrats for finishing 2 marathons at one go of 16 hours! This is a "Own Time Own Target" run so you are free to run any number of laps, start and stop whenever you want, pause and continue whenever you want. No food provided, runners will need to stop and pause the run and head off to a nearby eatery if they need food. If not they stop till they complete the targeted number of loops.
  5. beast

    50 Hours Non-stop Run 2019 (19 Apr - 21Apr)

    Good luck to all runners. Really mental to be completing loops around the reservoir. Persevere and complete your targeted loops!
  6. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Not sure why you would expect one company to do the work of another company.... releasing details about those "contractual obligations", issue from KPI...aren't these things supposed to be done by KPI themselves? KPI is their client, so I don't think it makes any sense for PA to be digging and exposing what already seems to be a bankruptcy issue with KPI. I don't see how it will make things better by burning bridges with a client whom I believe they are still keen to work with in future, or how doing all those things would aid in the releasing of results. You can say that Pink Apple as the race organizer by right should be looking into the interests of the runners on all matters. But from a business perspective, the race organizer is just the party that helps the event owner manages the run. Anything else that doesn't concern them, be it problems with the transport app or this holding of results by their client, they remain the right of not getting involved. You can vent your frustrations about PA, and you can change things by not taking part in the future runs that they organize, if you feel strongly that they have not been acting rightly about this whole issue.
  7. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Pink Apple's official statement is as clear as it can gets. What other solution would you recommend to do in this situation then? Ask Pink Apple to help KPI pay Racetime out of their own pockets, so as to keep runners happy? If you are the boss of Pink Apple, would you do that? KPI probably owes Pink Apple money for other stuff too. Pink Apple also knows runners are going after them, hence the official statement. It is probably the best they would do now, while they seek alternative solution with KPI. But agree that their name has been tainted badly because of KPI now.
  8. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Did you not read and understand the statement at all? Pink Apple made it super clear that it is not their fault for the delay in the release of results. Key Power International, who engaged them to organize the 2XU run, is the one not paying up the service providers (like Racetime), hence they are not providing the end service. At least blame the correct party lah.
  9. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Thanks for sharing insider news on how race organziers engaged the pacers to double check the distance by running the planned route. May I ask a few questions? 1) How long was this planned route run before the actual run start date? 2) Did they say what "logistic inconvenience" they were facing? I am guessing that it refers to their re submission the route to the relevant authorities for approval, which they might find it troublesome or do not have enough time to do it. 3) In another event, why did the person checking the planned route feel disappointed when told by runners one of the category distances was short? If he has done his checking and ensure that it was accurate enough, he has done his job right? Also want to clarify that I wasn't being disrespectful to those who care about distance accuracy and measurement techniques - I am merely highlighting the reality that race organizers won''t go so far to ensure accuracy as long as they have done due diligence in doing so and within their acceptable margin error. Going back to the chicken rice analogy, if it wasn't made to one's liking, I believe most people will choose to quietly boycott the stall instead of asking the uncle how he prepares the food and why it is not tasty enough. If someone gets food poisoning then yes the method of preparing must be raised and questioned, so in the equivalent unless a runner is in anyway bodily harmed by running an inaccurate distance, the method of measuring the distance must be questioned.
  10. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    The most accurate way of measuring distance is the Jones Counter and I seriously doubt any race organizers bother with it. It makes no business sense to do it As long as using running apps is the most convenient way of measuring distance, and its margin error is acceptable by most people, they will continue to do it. I am sure they also do their diligence of checking the distance onsite. I don't need organizers to state how they measure the route either. When you order chicken rice, do you ask the uncle to tell you how he prepares the chicken and the rice, for the purpose of transparency?
  11. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Only HM and FM. https://media.aws.iaaf.org/competitioninfo/01664bab-af0a-44d6-a014-cd603492f592.pdf
  12. beast

    Income Eco Run 2019 - 28 Apr (Sun)

    2Xu had 3 small loops - 1 at the beginning of the run, 1 near the ECP and 1 at the Promentary Income run has just 1 small loop which is the slope up at marina barrage. Surely the distance covered by the 3 small loops is more than the 1 loop? Did the route make up for a longer distance somewhere?
  13. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    Well, they will need to plan out the route, no? What better and more convenient way to plan than to use apps that will calculate a rough distance? I have no idea why you would have this impression that they will use pedometer, which is a device for calculating the number of steps a person walks. Even if you are referring to the Jones Counter, I have no idea why you would assume they will do that, given that it is a tedious process of measuring distance.
  14. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    No need to apologise (again) - we already established that it is OK to discuss about timings and distances here. I think the question is why did you feel speechless about Pink Apple's answer? Were you expecting a different answer?
  15. beast

    2XU Compression Run 2019 - 07 Apr (Sun)

    I don't think anyone is expecting that, and Pink Apple is not obliged to do that. Which is why I wanted to know what exactly did YH90 ask and what is he expecting out of the question. I think it is fair that they map the distance online and then recee the route. The small loop around the promentory might have been done account after they realize there is quite a substantial distance different from what they planned initially. Still will have people KPKB coz PB not met due to longer distance. There is really no pleasing everyone. I don't know how the outsourcing of jobs in this case works. My initial thought was that being the race organizer, Pink Apple had engaged Racetime, as part of their race management. But after this hoo-ha surfaced, I am inclined to think that Pink Apple only engaged Racetime on behalf of KPI, so when KPI does not pay Racetime in time the results are being held back by Racetime. When people go after Pink Apple for the race results, they "push it" back to KPI because they are not the one who has a contractual obligation with Racetime. Not 100% sure of this theory, just my own speculation.
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